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Robert Delfs's avatar

I had no idea you were that Leonard's son. I remember reading his reviews and pieces in the NYT, and of course reading Heinlein myself. Your most recent piece on soy was extraordinarily good, a masterpiece. I mean it.

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Andrew Leonard's avatar

Much appreciated!

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Robert Berger's avatar

Wow, that is a crazy time loop

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John Howard Brown's avatar

Is nice to have those kind of memories of your father. I'm a bit older than you and first read Time Enough in 1976. I was impressed with it at the time. It is the only scifi book which prompted me to cry. I recently reread it. It's funny how differently I responded to it today. Specifically, a large portion of the book consists of " The Tale of The Adoptive Daughter.". Reading of a young girl raised as an adopted daughter who throws herself at a much older man, my 21st Century mind thought about grooming. Also, it is an old man's fantasy. However, the episode when she died still made me cry.

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Andrew Leonard's avatar

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff involving Heinlein's depictions of women that does not wear well.

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Karen's avatar

This is lovely, Andrew.

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Andrew Leonard's avatar

Thank you!

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dshelton's avatar

Heinlein really hasn't aged well. He espoused patriotism, personal morality, competence, and responsibility. He was such a raging sexist that he put strong female characters front and center of his novels, including one who was the benign and wise ruler of Twenty Universes who chose her duty to her people even over the happiness of a man she loved. But he did seem entrenched in the view that men and women have very different attributes and roles in society, so.... He was authoritarian-- he'd probably object to allowing a mass of illegal aliens equal to the population of Sweden into the US in less than four years and want them deported. I doubt he'd be cool with the modern view of policing that sees violent criminals routinely and repeatedly released without bail, or the philosophy that people have an absolute right to live on the sidewalk and shoot up heroin and defecate in public. Of course, he did write a number of books where authoritarian governments were fiercely resisted and in many cases overthrown by freedom fighters-- but he wrote that one book where he suggested that citizens should be personally invested in their society in order to vote, so he was probably on the fascist spectrum. No, Heinlein didn't "age well"-- but that is much more a condemnation of modern society than it is of Heinlein's values.

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